Wednesday, August 20, 2008

The Fake Four-God Bible (Part 1a, 1b)


==Abstract==
Religion is too confusing to you? Or your consciousness is confusing yourself? Do you blame God when you fail at life? Is God really there? Lightheaded at mass? Falling asleep in Church? Is Religion the cure and the answer of the unknown? And are we just worshiping the unknown just because we are afraid of uncertainty? Is it human nature to do worshiping?

==Disclaimer==

Huh? You think I am the bible? Being too self-assertive about itself? No. If you think anything below is inaccurate, please contact me ASAP. If you want me to change any of the BELOW, you had better convince me with reasoning and research. No, don't think I am a noob that you can manipulate. You can fool me around once, but you will deserve the consequences for bearing false witnesses. I am seeking the Truth. I have no intention to pretend like an expert. Relationships between myth and truth can be confusing. But I am quite sure that I have been reading to the amount that no one will match me at one in a thousand in this topic just because of my concerns about the world.

==See also==

Have a look at Angelology post that I had previously posted on facebook or my website.

Have a look at my official website at http://hk.geocities.com/iiaiiappa so that you will know who I really am.



All of my posts on facebook are also posted on my website to oppose facebook's monopoly.

This is not the first time I have complains about Facebook



==The Fake Four-God Bible==

How many Gods as of today? How many do you want?

When the bible tells you there is one God, you think it is true.
When the bible tells you there are two God, you think it is true.
When the bible tells you there are many God, you think it is true, too.
The bible even tells you if there are more Gods, the better the world is.

Gods don't fight each other. Believe this!

When the bible tells you there is no God, you think it is true. Too.

You all believe in it, but you are all confused. As long as it is bible, you will all believe in it, and, we call it FAITH.

Let us all believe in this: My name is Christopher. I have my standard God. The real standard one. I don't swear. I never lie, not even the white lies. I am an alpha male. I am straight. I am against homosexuality. I don't have pre-marital sex. I don't masturbate. I don't drink. I don't even touch pornography. I only promote monogamy. I don't remarry. I have been circumcised. I go to Church everyday three times - morning, noon, and night.

But I eat meat, so as to kill all the little cute chicks in the world. I don't recycle, so as to intentionally pollute the Earth, and possibly the universe. I shop Wal-mart to enslave its employees. I smoke regularly because the bible doesn't say I can't. Drinking the black water - Coke and coffee, or the bottled water. My cars drink the black water - the gasoline. I want monopoly.

Yet, I am "very peaceful." I am on the top of everything. I will go to straight to heaven after I die, just because I go to confessions even I didn't do anything wrong, and may be God found me guilty to consume "the black water." We are God's children too, so we are all Gods. Yet, we kneel to our God as if we were slaves.

I never commit murder. Yet, we go to wars with other countries, and feed "A Child with just a Chick (Chick and also Click)" because these countries are in "the Third World." The Third World, it is another kind of world, because it is more like the "underworld," where the people there significantly suffer more than we do.

I want all my sons and daughters to be baptized like the monkey baptizing the baby lion at the end of the movie Lion King!

The world, for long, has downplayed the Truth by naive ignorance.

Yea, if you are so dumb, that is probably what you all are believing in, and this is all you want to hear.

==The Christianity Buffet==

It is all about your Belief, and what you would like, Blind Faith and also your Unnecessary Submission to religion.


"We are indeed a society, it seems, forced into obtaining our information ‘fast food’ style."

Source: http://www.zeitgeistresponse.info/ retrieved on July 15, 2008.

Agree. Fast food information. The world, has downplayed the Truth by naive ignorance. Without further research, we silently granted the myth as Truth. Zeitgeist has been the best effort to be accurate. Its concerns are legitimate, and we cannot dismiss it.

I am telling you: I am not influenced by Satan or Christ, if you believe those things exist.


The Fabulous Christianity Buffet:


I don't like being a Catholic,
because they don't let me remarry.
Changing the church to Mormon.
I don't like being polygamous.
Changing my church to Eastern Orthodox.
I don't like my son to be baptize,
Changing my church to Fundamentalist.
There is still something wrong.
Let's go back to the Catholics.
Well, the Churches look too pointy and too square.
I just don't like the architecture.
Um, may be Muslim temples are better...

This is the infamous Christianity Buffet. You can pick whatever you like, just like your wallpaper on your desktop. You must pick one or God will punish you. There must exist the God, "Thee can't deny it nor reject it." "When thou don't find thee God, couldn't find the path to God, and thus worshiping the Satan, thou should go straight to hell without my further miracle questionings."

When people can't find answers in mainstream religion, some of them worship Satan.

==Response to the Movie Zeitgeist and all its debunking==

Referring to

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com
http://www.zeitgeistresponse.info

The movie Zeitgeist is not anti-government, it is against the political leaders who control the government.

"Please" believe in bible, you all "love" the four-God bible. (Edit: Sounds very convincing in a satirical manner. More advertising will do the work. Kill more unbelievers will also do the work to make people believe in it. For real: Four-God Bible doesn't exist, and I don't write anything to replace Bible in any possible manner.)

I am standing here to test your faith. Your blind faith. (Edit: Look at me. If you are blind, you will fail the test.)

I don't say there is no God(s). There may be God, but no one should care about how the Christians make a big fuss about it, and write about it. Christians are overdoing about their religion. Believing in God does not equal to believe in what has been written in the Holy Bible. Religion is a form of submission, as you kneel to God in the Church or any temples, conceiving the existence of God(s) as the Truth. The truth is that there is no human in this world finding the very real Truth about God. God is something that you have to experience with, as with other kinds of good and evil in this world.

After reading all this, you all will think I am going to hell. Not quite, as we all want to be faithful slaves of religion, now, where is the hell?

Unlike the movie Zeitgeist, I am not telling you the number of deities ruling the human world and who are the real and fake deities, in the past, now and the future. I am telling you the attitude to justify religion. Religion is a good guideline of how people should behave on certain things, and probably overkills. Religion is a theory, and it is just similar to Science - with its own proof like literature from the past which attempted to prove itself. However, religion does have contradictions with Science.

As a scientist with a scientific attitude and a strong pursuing of professionalism, will I buy into Religion? The answer is no. What I can see and be measured can be qualified as my own perceived truth. Even there is something measurable and making sense, I will still have to question about it because the perceived truth is not the real Truth. So, do you think I buy into Scientific theories? Science is the perceived truth, so I will buy into it for NOW. Perceived truth is something that every scientist should always be questioning. If there are anything don't pass the rubric of science, and not surprisingly the first thing that is not passing is probably Religion...

==Coming up next in the Fake Four-God Bible==

==Life and Religion==
Do you or have you blame the system and the society, yourself, or religion and God when you are depressed or when you fail at something?
==Is Religion failing in Science rubric?==
It is wrong to say whatever human can't understand is just the God.

Religion - it is just like Science. Religion is an attempt to narrow down the black box for whatever we cannot explain, just like Science. However, religion is not successful to pinpoint the black box yet. If religion were so successful, we all would have believe in it.

==Should we pay equal respect to Religion and Science?==
==Is Science failing in the lens of Religion?==
When does Religion disapprove Science in modern times?
==When Science meets Religion?==
Is Science compatible with Religion? Blue moon?
==Religion meets history?==
The movie Zeitgeist has been pulling a lot of arguments about Religion doesn't really agree with the academia's history. What do others say about it?
==The debate of Religion and Science is pointlessness? Yea, to a certain degree==


Peace is possible once we end the debate on something that we shouldn't argue on and imposing others to believe in: Religion. Peace may be obtained
by rejecting whatever that is imposed by Religion, while insist on anything that is reasonably, morally and ethically correct.




Part 1b

Thesis: Religion should be valued at the same level as a tool of interpreting the world and not any more. Just like science.

Pat agrees with a friend... (needs to give credit to her anyway):

Religion has set the standard norm of human behavior so that the society can avoid certain mistakes. People who have hurt me most were not religious people (Edit: Is it possible for them to hurt us indirectly? and systematically?). Some of my good friends are very religious. I avoided to deal with my religious friends in certain topics, so as not to upsetting them. Sometimes they judge me and make assumptions about me. When this comes up I need to be patient. From what I have observed, some religious people are protected (not immune) from some mistakes. Well, this is not necessary sourced from their life knowledge, but just because a code of behavior that they are following helps them to avoid the unnecessary pain and mistakes. On the other hand, some religious people do stumble on a lot of mistakes due to their ignorance, and are unable to change themselves because of the teaching of their religion is restraining them. Some Religion groups doctrines are used to oppress others such as woman. Moreover, the Holy books can be used to sprout myth and thoughts that can oppress and manipulate people. Since spiritual need is present in all of us, the myth is consuming us by using our weakness, terribly.

I have observed Religion can be used as a great source of energy. Its essentials may be used to keeping the tabs of the moral of humanity. Religion seemingly has keep things simple. Religion also helps because the code of behavior that it advocates insists that we must not to do anything deceitful or evil against others. As Pat have pointed out in the Fake Bible first part, some people who I admire have found themselves incompatible with Religion due to their sexual orientation - Homosexual communities. These communities are rejected by Religion; so they had created their own religion community. Sometimes good people are also rejected from other Religion groups such as the Muslims rejecting the Christians.

I think for myself: Not everyone can buy into any one single doctrine in one particular religion and stick with it forever. I am observing all the Religion doctrines, and I have put some compatible religious thinking into my own use. On the other hand, if anyone needs a serious study of religion, there are many Religious figures' sayings to advices us how to do well in life and it could take time to learn. It is always good to be educated. I study science and I still have not found the answers for all the contradictions exist between science and religion. To save my time and efforts, I put the religion aside and have moved on.

I have grown up in a Catholic family and community. The code of behavior was unconsciously implanted within myself. I have decided to follow such a code of behavior as is while continuing adding new compatible things like critics and knowledge from other sources about understanding life (Buffet!). I admire some modern religion figures and in particular Dalai Lama and Sogyal Rinpoche. Dalai Lama is very interested in Science, and his thinking was great and yet he is humble. I try to be a Religion followers, as I found myself spiritually weak and Religion may be able to help me.

==The conflict between Sexuality and Religion==
I was reading an article that is discussing about the problem of masturbation. I was not so well informed about it. I have read about sex addiction. I think to be a single person, it may be good to avoid visual stimulus that can raise sexual desire and further provoking imagination and fantasy. This is something difficult to avoid in the modern days. I think doing exercises and eating healthy can help a person to stay single and morally clean. I will not judge the morality about masturbating. Everyone can decide what to do with their bodies and have rights to decide what is better for them in order to stay physically and psychologically healthy.

I think a good sexual relationship can create good bonds at all personal levels, so this is something that we should deal with carefully. That is probably why in the Catholics, other Christians, Muslims, and Buddhists encourages no sex before marriage. Also, you may not get marry with anybody that you do not trust. It is necessary to look into the soul of the person who you make bonds with. More than one sexual relationship is probably considered greedy. So, this may be able to explain why the mainstream Religion promotes monogamy. Sometimes it is better to be single, because having a union with a wrong person can ruin your life, and may be even worse if there are off-springs involved in such relation. Of course, there exists a great source of happiness and also a great source of pain. Pain and happiness do varies through out the union through marriage. Some unhappy individuals stay married because of their religion beliefs. This can explain why it is not the first time on the 6pm news about some mistreated women prefer to stay with men who have abused them and vice versa. And also some persons kill others out of their disappointment, jealousy and amour.

Some male friends of mine were explaining to me that they can separate their sexual desires from other aspects of a relationship. That can explain the existence of prostitutes, and some other people try to avoid prostitutes by masturbating. I can understand. Furthermore, it is so condescending to the sexual partner(s) to treat them as merely objects.

On the other hand, there is a crazy idea about suppressing one's sexual behavior. People are manipulated with this doctrine so that they feel guilty about their desires and acts related to masturbation. (Edit: My two-cents are here, if you don't need to have sex, you probably don't need eat.)

There is still a lot of hidden information and unannounced consensus about sex and manipulation and not everyone wants to fully admit it due to the attitude of some Religion. If you express the otherwise on this topic, you will be rejected in the society.

Instead of refusing any sexual desires, it is important to study how it works first. At least it helps when we understand what is going on and why it is so. At least it will not hurt anyone or anything by learning about it. It is how life is created. It is the source of diversity, and it helps any species in the nature to survive, and this can be regarded as sacred and precious. Nowadays a lot people just follow their desires, this can explain the reason that there are so many children born in spiritual poverty and with lack of love from their parents, and undermining difficulties for them do well in life. Even worse is the idea of abortion. No one wants something that is so regretful. This is why we have to be responsible, and not to inflict more pain to more sentient beings. Perhaps that is why the Bible was written. There should have been more open discussion regarding this topic. However, some religious people deny the existence of sexuality and desires, and saying so less about otherwise. Thus, their attitude has induce more pain than necessary in this world because the discussion of topic can be easily treated as a taboo or something to feel shame if you address about it.

==Disclaimer==

Huh? You think I am the bible? Being too self-assertive about itself? No. If you think anything ABOVE is inaccurate, please contact me ASAP. If you want me to change any of the ABOVE, you had better convince me with reasoning and research. No, don't think I am a noob that you can manipulate. You can fool me around once, but you will deserve the consequences for bearing false witnesses. I am seeking the Truth. I have no intention to pretend like an expert. But I am quite sure that I have been reading to the amount that no one will match me at one in a thousand in this topic just because of my concerns about the world.

==References==

2007, Zeitgeist Movie. http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com retrieved on May 2008.

2008 Mar, THE DEBUNKING OF ZEITGEIST MYTHOLOGY, http://www.zeitgeistresponse.info/ retrieved on May 2008.

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==COMMENTS==

I would like to give equal respect to everyone commented here.

Our comments are too way long, and I have to post here:



==Jeff's Post Number 1==

Pat, thanks for tagging me. I like keeping up with what you're writing and thinking.

As a devout Christian, of course I disagree with many of your arguments. Yet I respect the research and thought you've already put into them. I believe that the honest pursuit of Truth will always yield good results.

At this point, let me simply comment on the arbitrariness of your criterion of truth. You seem to reject the Bible partly because some people believe it blindly, and partly because some who claim to believe
it are hypocrites. Neither of these is a valid argument against the Bible's truth. In fact (as I could explain in detail if you're interested) both of these points may actually speak *in favor* of the Bible, if you're looking at the big picture.

At the same time that you reject the Bible, you accept the claims of current science. Why? Because science is empirical and is confirmed by our common perceptions? Well, in the first place, many aspects of science go against both our sense perceptions and our natural intuitions (quantum theory, for instance). And in the second place, science is subject to error and is constantly in flux--how much more when it attempts to deal with the ultimate questions! You suggest this yourself when you write, "Even there is something measurable and making sense, I will still have to question about it because the perceived
truth is not the real Truth," and "Science is the perceived truth, so I will buy into it for NOW. Perceived truth is something that every scientist should always be questioning."

In the end, your criterion of truth is only your own personal perceptions and choices. Instead of having a Bible that at least claims divine inspiration, you have a self-generated bible that is constantly changing and makes no such claim. This position leads to solipsism and eventually nihilism, i.e. intellectual and spiritual self-destruction. I hope you won't sink to this, but rise to the heights for which God created you.


==Pat's response at Jeff's Post number 1==
1. I accept current claims of current science for now because it is all I can see.

Quoting to restate: "What I can see and be measured can be qualified as my own perceived truth. Even there is something measurable and making sense, I will still have to question about it because the perceived truth is not the
real Truth. So, do you think I buy into scientific theories? Science is the perceived truth, so I will buy into it for NOW. I do question science as a reliable source of Truth." @ Pat

2. "Because science is empirical and is confirmed by our common perceptions? many aspects of science go against both our sense perceptions" @ Jeff

The real Truth is usually hard to accept. What we find out is tend to be not what we want it to be. I want a God too, but so far there are no convincing facts to justify the presence of any deity. However, science isn't everything. What we feel might be a lot different than Science. Our perception can be inaccurate. We must question the current science like what we do now. One thing I would assert is that Science can change itself and being dynamic, but Religion can't as Religion is so static as I have seen it. Science is the approximation of the Truth. We scientists always want to make it perfect.

I am not writing a bible nor writing something to replace the Bible. This is not Bible and it is just an article. If this article deserves a big change, I will rewrite it.

3. Solipsism - definition: the self is all that you know to exist

The grave danger of solipsism is that it makes people think "the world around us isn't real." However, I am not falling into this category.

It has been a dispute for the academia to regard Bible is a source to cite, depends on the situation.

4. Nihilism - A revolutionary doctrine that advocates destruction of the social system

We have to find out the Truth, to perfect our science. Science can be questioned, but it is often socially rejected to question about Religion.

Yes, I also don't like the people misuse the Bible. A lot of people misinterpret the bible and trying to convince other people, causing so much other problems in the world. Also, don't ever try to change the Bible because it is regarded as the words from the true deity by many people. Anyone who attempts to change the bible is damaging the society, and damaging the already crumbling Church, and also spreading more and more myth. No one is better off. I have no intention to change the Bible. I am here to ask what if the bible has told us otherwise. And I am asking why the Christians are so sure about that they have been worshiping the real true deity. Or are we overplay the role of Religion in the society?

And also what if the first copy of the bible was being altered in the past so that what is being said in the bible in the present is not the God's intention at all? I wonder. I always wonder.

It could be a very real punishment to the humanity from the deity who [is/are] trying to hide from us. I restate that am not judging God(s) [himself/herself/itself/themselves], and I tell you nothing about the existence of God, and who it is. In addition, we should not disarm our judgments concerning the existence of any deity. To alleviate this punishment, we should not blindfold ourselves. Never jump to the conclusion, but well you can reach the conclusion. Blind faith is the most dangerous thing that can even fool the most intelligent people on Earth. And how many of us have been struggling on this? And how many people are frustrated and turned to worship the evil. I have got to tell you though, I won't be stupid worship something that doesn't make any sense, like worship the evil.

Please assert the fact that I am not anti-God whatsoever. Also I am not trying writing a bible.

My modifications on my original articles are strictly on grammatical mistakes. If there are any incomplete ideas or something that doesn't make any sense, I will tell you it is an addendum right after the original article. These are the rules that I should respect.

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